Outrageous instance of gay-bashing

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I'm not gay, and I'm all for free speech, but this incident really has me concerned--and outraged. I know nothing about Tucker Carlson and haven't ever watched his program, but I believe he's fairly well known and probably has a large audience.

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lady_express_44 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1314 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Reminds me of my ex. He was a truck driver, and used to deliver to this one restaurant all the time. One time, a guy he'd known for a long time, who was the "Receiver" there, made a pass at my husband (who wore a ring at the time). He lived to regret it.

I think there are more mature ways to deal with come-on's, and many women are used to having to do that with grace. Men, however, are probably not used to come-on's to begin with, but ESPECIALLY if it is from another man. YIKES!

There isn't enough information to know what "bothered" means, ie. did the guy hang his willy out? A bathroom is definitely not a place where a person should come on to another person, especially a guy. Most guys I've known are very personal about their privates around other men, and to even make a lewd, suggestive comment to a man in that situation is ASKING for trouble, IMHO.

No doubt people were laughing, but I don't think that's why the guy punched him out. I think he did it because he was disgusted and pissed off about it.

What if this gay guy comes on to young boys this way too? I see this as almost perverted, to approach a stranger in the bathroom and make a pass at them. YUCK. I have no objection to people's sexual preference, but they'd best be in a public place or very sure that they know the other person is gay if they want to make a move on them. The bathroom is NOT at all the right place, IMHO.

So, I'm not surprised this guy did that, and I hope the other guy learned a good lesson from it!!

Cherie
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agate · Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject:

I agree--the information given in the account is vague, to say the least!

I don't know about Canada, but in the US men's public bathrooms are notorious as places where gay guys pick up other gay guys.... It's definitely courting trouble but it goes on.

lady_express_44 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1314 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Well some men aren't very sophisticated in dispute resolution skills, and the fist is their first line of defense. I hate violence, but I know it is likely to happen in some circumstances. This is one of them, where the consequences seem almost predictable. geek

I'm not sure if that goes on in Canada, Agate. I suspect it has, but doubt that it is typical. We are probably fairly liberal/progressive (?) compared to many countries (especially when it comes to sexual orientation), but men here will still use their fists to settle some types of confrontations. I'm glad it's that though, and not guns.

Cherie
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LaDeeDa · Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Location: FL

I've gotten to the age where I truly don't care which side of the gender-preference road a person lives on. However, I do care that neither party involved respected the other's space.

My immediate reaction after reading the report was:
1) the guy making the pass to a stranger in a public restroom was an idiot to do so,
2) the TV commentator was also an idiot for responding the way he did.

So he ran into a gay guy making a pass at him - not a way to win friends or guarantee a date, but neither is it a reason to bash a person's head against a wall. Then for the TV commentator to go on national TV and repeat the story as if he was chuggin' down beers with his buds at a local pub opens him up for all kinds of legal trouble, to say nothing of viewer response (both pro and con) which could jeopardize his career.

For the gay guy to have made a (probable) lewd suggestion or pass to an unsuspecting stranger in a public bathroom proves that this guy is brainless as well as personally irresponsible. He knew the risks. He's an idiot.

For this Tucker guy to have used his fists instead of legal avenues proves that for all his education, intelligence, and worldly knowledge, he can easily revert to a knuckle-dragging neanderthal. He's an idiot.

Moral: Idiots deserve each other.
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agate · Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

Yes, at least the senator who got caught appears to have been part of a signalling system that was going on in the restroom (toe-tapping).

Matt · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 961

Wow, I can't immagine smacking someone for coming on to me. Up in Iqaluit, I had a lot of not-so-good looking woman come on to me in very aggressive and repulsive ways. I didn't smack a single one of them. Some good looking ones tried too.

In a bathroom in NYC, there was a guy who was masturbating and looking side to side at everyone else at the stalls in the train station. I was totally grossed out by that behaviour, but I didn't smack him either.

lady_express_44 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1314 Location: Vancouver, Canada

Well Matt, it pretty much goes without out saying that you wouldn't hit a woman. Even a very UNsophisticated man knows better then that (although there are some losers that would do it too!).

You really had women approach you in the BATHROOM?? Gack!

Cherie
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agate · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

Cherie, Matt didn't say women approached him in a bathroom. The bathroom is mentioned in connection with another incident involving a man....

Matt · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 961

I did have a woman say "You're going to the Bathroom with me." And she asked me if I like to get my dick sucked. So, that's pretty close.

I don't support smacking people who are trying to pick someone up unless it's legitamate self-defense.

lady_express_44 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1314 Location: Vancouver, Canada

No, I don't support it either, Matt. I don't support violence of any kind.

I just know it happens with many men, and especially when their "masculinity" is challenged. I am not a passive-type person, but even I know better then to challenge a man in that way. Maybe that's the reason I've never been hit geek

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Cherie
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Mr Natural · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

And Tucker Carlson is a DEMOCRAT yet!
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LaDeeDa · Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Location: FL

Mr Natural · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 37

Well, most Democrats are more tolerant of alternative lifestyles (Cheney's daughter being an exception, the way I see it). So called "conservatives" wanna live in the past. Remember when Bob Dole wanted to take us back to the 1940's ? I think it was that comment (well, plus our burgeoning economy) that won Bill Clinton's re-election in 92. Hell, they'd still have blacks riding in the back of the bus.
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